Imprisonment 9: Wednesday 6PM

[Mary]

Time to get the ball rolling.

Is it time for Chance to go? Owen? Claude? Broderick? Kiara?

The possibilities for icepicking are endless.

[Cinnamyn]

i say owen. chance STILL has more suspicion on him than owen, lmbo.

kiara will be in the spotlight this round. jasmine is planning to attack broderick and i am helping her.

[Hambone]

1. Chance
2. Claude
3. Brody

I don't think we should get rid of Owen. People will vote him out if they see he's still alive.

[Lawrence]

Here I will try to be extremely productive and post a list analyzing the reasons to keep or not to keep various players. If any of you disagree with anything I post, please point it out.

Kiara
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Reasons To Imprison - She has a role which we know is more powerful than the Citizens would like us to believe. Was a member of the core Citizen alliance.

Reasons To Spare - The role, as far as most of the Citizens know, could easily be a Spy role. She is suspected by a few members of the Burg. She does not really make cases. I am not sure who she suspects at the moment, and she is not one of the more active players.

Dane

Reasons To Imprison - Can't think of anything right now.

Reasons To Spare - He is a suspected Citizen. Suspects Stephanie, among others. Antagonistic when asking questions, leads to dislike, which leads to grudge voting. I know everyone says they don't vote off of emotions . . . but it will sway them when he is up for Exile.

Owen

Reasons To Imprison - Voting record looks like a saint. Member of the core Citizen alliance. Seems logical (at least in the one chat I have had with him.)

Reasons To Spare - Doesn't build cases. Due to his schedule, he is not very active right now. Can succumb to the "too Citizen to be alive" argument.

Rondak

Reasons To Imprison - None.

Reasons To Spare - Liability to the Burg. Does not make cases. Bandwagons on existing cases. Easily Exileable.

Chance

Reasons To Imprison - Has a role. Member of core Citizen alliance. A Chance death forces Claude to take a stance on someone other than him, giving us more room to argue for Claude's potential Exile.

Reasons To Spare - Still suspected by many players.

Stephanie

Reasons To Imprison - Not really any at this point.

Reasons To Spare - Not the most logical player. Suspected by Dane, which can lead to suspected by others. Exileable.

Claude

Reasons To Imprison - Has a role. Member of core Citizen alliance. Makes cases. Experienced.

Reasons To Spare - Makes cases on the wrong people. Looks bad if Chance flips. Can be manipulated, probably.

Jasmine

Do I even need to say anything here? We aren't Imprisoning her.

Broderick

Reasons To Imprison - Asks good questions. Not afraid to make cases. Looks like a Citizen.

Reasons To Spare - Abrasive and unpredictable. Has and will continue to rub people the wrong way. Him dying casts suspicion onto Cinnamyn. Broderick vs. Jasmine is asking to be exploited.

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I agree that Owen should be Imprisoned. While Hambone brings up a good point, I believe that the other pieces to the puzzle of this game can be more easily exploited than Owen. We have to kill someone, and I would rather not get rid of someone like Chance, who can be exploited later in the game. Owen is fairly independent, and killing him does not connect us to any deaths.

My second choice is Kiara, based solely on the fact that next round, if I'm right about her role, she can make someone immune from Imprisonment.

My distant third choice is Chance to make Claude look bad, but I believe that they will see right through that.

1. Owen
2. Kiara
3. Chance

[Hambone]

Many people will target Owen in a round or two due to him being alive. Voting him out is a shit idea, especially since he is completely reliable on other smart people to help him, and currently, there are none left.

[Lawrence]

That argument is unreliable. It works some times, its true. But we know that people suspect Chance. We don't know that people will turn on Owen.

[Cinnamyn]

will chance vote 1 of us b4 owen doez.?

no.

[Hambone]

he didnt vote 4 jenny u schmucks!

[Lawrence]

So?

[Mary]

I have heard Owen express serious suspicions of Cinnamyn and passing suspicions of Lawrence and myself. He's definitely on the right track, but Hambone's right, he's not been a leader at all. He's more of a citizen rallying point. They want to have a leader.

Also, Chance is a guaranteed Citizen but he's wrong about just about everything and no one follows him so he has no leader potential. We need to keep an eye on him.

[Cinnamyn]

1. owen
2. broderick
3. kiara

[Hambone]

1. brody
2. kiara
3. cinamon

[Mary]

Aug 3, 2010 8:29:11 GMT -6 Lawrence said:

1. Owen
2. Kiara
3. Chance

Aug 4, 2010 12:24:57 GMT -6 Hambone said:

1. brody
2. kiara
3. cinamon

Aug 4, 2010 11:54:09 GMT -6 Cinnamyn said:

1. owen
2. broderick
3. kiara

Owen 6pts
Kiara 5pts
Broderick 5pts
Chance 1pt

If we want to win by stifling Citizen discussion, we need to imprison Broderick. He is the only player making good cases and making the effort to win. I don't see anyone even remotely prepared to pick up the ball if Brody drops it.

If we want to win by demoralizing the Citizens, we take Owen. That will leave them with only Chance as a person to "trust".

If we want to eliminate roled players who might be difficult to exile, we take Kiara. I believe we can wait on her, as some people seem to still suspect her, but we can't wait long.

If we want to eliminate confirmed Citizens, we eventually have to take Chance. I believe we can wait on him, as he's not making any cases.

I think I'm going to support Hambone's push for a Broderick imprisonment.

1. Broderick
2. Kiara
3. Owen

I can be persuaded to switch to Owen if someone makes the case that Broderick will NOT do more damage by being left alive for one more exile. Does anyone have a tally on people who agree with him on Cinnamyn?

Cinnamyn, we need to discuss how we'll respond to accusations that the Spies did this to protect you.

[Mary]

If Broderick goes, how will the case on Cinnamyn be affected?

Broderick suspects Cinnamyn (IMPRISONED)
Dane suspects Cinnamyn.
Owen suspects Cinnamyn.
Rondak has suspected Cinnamyn.
Claude has mild suspicions of Cinnamyn.

Stephanie has not mentioned Cinnamyn suspicions.
Chance seems to trust Cinnamyn.
Kiara doesn't seem to suspect Cinnamyn.

Jasmine does not seem to suspect Cinnamyn and gets no vote.

That's 7 Citizens plus 4 spies voting. We have a TON of power now. If those guys split 4-3 on Cinnamyn, we can easily tip the balance by placing our votes appropriately.

It looks like Brody going may help, not harm, Cinnamyn. But it's tough to say. A lot depends on whether she comes out firing with a good case people will agree with.

[Cinnamyn]

we can play it off az...

1. wifom
2. y didnt he get imprizined wen he furst suspected me, 2 roundz ago, or even 1 round ago, if i am a spy
3. he iz da only 1 creating discushin
4. itz not sum1 in da heaven/hell group, we can further increase suspishin of them (and mary i dont think dis iz a problem 4 u..i keep casting doubt on u but most ppl r not having it and i no claude wud go b4 u, probs kiara and owen 2)

i am fine with it if yall r.

[Cinnamyn]

and i doubt all 4 of them will vote me. espeshully if we give them 1/2 other good opshinz.

rondak we can keep tabs on and sway him wutever way we want, and i dont think claude will if dane/owen r. that iz a weird pair.

but we will need those other strong opshinz. claude iz 1 we cud pull off i think, but we mite want another.

[Mary]

$

[Cinnamyn]

just in case...

1. broderick
2. owen
3. ham sandwich

[Mary]

A ham sandwich walks into a bar, orders a drink.

Bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve food here."

[Lawrence]

1. Broderick
2. Owen
3. Chance

[Hambone]

Glad you're all listening to me. Trust me, Owen will die. He will be our final lynch, you'll see.

[Judge Sam]

You have selected Broderick.

[Hambone]

HAM has selected.... Broderick who I am talking to right now

spies8broderick: (10:00:00 PM) If I dont make it through imprisonment I'm going to be fucking pissed off.
spies8broderick: (10:00:14 PM) Even if I do, I'll still be pissed. lol
spies8hambone: (10:00:27 PM) lol ok i just posted that thing
spies8broderick: (10:00:27 PM) 'cus I won't be here for like th emajority of the discussion time


Couldn't help but say "lol" when he said that